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  • 刘再复:直声满学院——怀念吴世昌先生 - 作者:刘再复 《刘再复散文精编第1卷师友纪事》2011年,第72-76頁 [image: Uploaded Image] 吴世昌先生是我尊敬的学者,鲍彤是我尊敬的改革思想者。而吴世昌先生又是鲍彤的舅父,所以,我怀念起吴世昌先生时总是想起鲍彤。而听到鲍彤的消息时,总是想起吴世昌先生。去年,我从《纽约时...
    15 小時前
  • Margaret Lee at Misako & Rosen - April 25 – May 31, 2026
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  • Hong Kong gov’t begins public consultation on fire safety reforms after Tai Po fire - [image: Wang Fuk Court on May 4, 2026. Photo: Kyle Lam/HKFP.]The Hong Kong government has launched a public consultation on proposed amendments to the city...
    22 小時前
  • 260526二午陰30°C 77%:為馬英九難過 - 佛誕3天連假後開工日。昨晚由深圳返港的人潮逼爆關口。 港零售不振的問題,怕要待被深圳在物價上大致拉平才能解決。 今晨看美台報,不幸的是,圍繞馬英九兩陣對圓的狐疑,大致有了分曉! 看來,前總統確有失智的不幸。醫院有過診斷,雖屬隱私(港稱“私隱”),拒絕評論,但可信是馬先生的配偶與...
    1 天前
  • 《你是不會當樹嗎》 - 《你是不會當樹嗎》 原本以為這三段故事,會透過樹的記憶神經來跨越時間,梁朝偉會變成文史專家!?(可能是我水瓶座太跳了) 科普了一下樹的神經,原來一座森林裡面也有老大,只要在周邊有些蛛絲馬跡的變化,樹的神經系統都是有反應的,而第二段的故事中,花的神經可以當成現在我們的人臉辨識系統重要元件,那麼未來是否把...
    4 週前
  • 「遊走」愛爾蘭獨立/抗爭點滴(二) - 由愛爾蘭坐長途巴士到仍然由英國統治的北愛爾蘭,並沒有經過預估的邊境關卡。在共和軍反抗英國時期,邊境關卡曾經發生 […]
    1 年前
  • 還未說過的潮池故事 - (《潮池》2022 年再版序) 潮起潮落,灘岸岩隙間,留下一彎又一彎小水池,潮池裏的小生命還未來得及相知,水漲浪高,又飄散於大海;我們可能在另一個潮池相遇,我們可能從此不再遇上。 朋友如是、師生如是、至親如是、旅途上的過客如是;縱使聚散無常,我們曾經在天涯海角浪蕩過、瘋狂過、擁抱過,那是狂濤拍岸都不...
    3 年前
  • 第1642篇《你好,李焕英》 - 从电影院出来时已经下半夜了,记忆中这么晚看电影是几十年的事。连续三天没有买到票,只好买了夜里最后一场,电影散后街上空无一人,风寒心暖。 先说电影类型......>>点击查看新浪博客原文
    5 年前
  • 不消費卻在消費自然 - COVID-19已席捲全球十個多月,最近歐洲又有新一輪措施限制國民活動,防止疫情擴散。由於大量人口被迫待在家中,出入公共場所的人數減少,國際邊境關閉,加起來都大減碳排放量。學術期刊《自然氣候變化》的最新研究顯示,截至二○二○年四月初,全球二氧化碳日排放量比二○一九年的平均水平下降了17%,消費率和運輸率都相應下降...
    5 年前
  • 梁文道:天皇的黃袍,首相的燕尾 - 我不算哈日,但是一不小心,幾十年下來,居然也陸續購藏了幾百本關於日本的書。在這裏頭,光是中國人寫的,至少就占了一半。所以當我收到盧峯兄《地緣日本》這份書稿的時候,腦海中第一個問題,就是我們真有需要再多一本談論日本的書嗎?再想下去,或許更應該問的,是為什麼百年以來中國文人總是不斷書寫日本?是不是因為就像盧峯兄所說的...
    6 年前
  • 梁文道:天皇的黃袍,首相的燕尾 - 我不算哈日,但是一不小心,幾十年下來,居然也陸續購藏了幾百本關於日本的書。在這裏頭,光是中國人寫的,至少就占了一半。所以當我收到盧峯兄《地緣日本》這份書稿的時候,腦海中第一個問題,就是我們真有需要再多一本談論日本的書嗎?再想下去,或許更應該問的,是為什麼百年以來中國文人總是不斷書寫日本?是不是因為就像盧峯兄所說的...
    6 年前
  • 《魔雪奇緣2》與尋求公義的啟示 - 「Let it go~ Let it go~」這首曾經街知巷問的歌曲,來自2013年迪士尼動畫《魔雪奇緣》。此套講述一位擁有冰魔法少女與其妹妹的姊妹情動畫當年風靡全球,成為家傳戶曉的故事。時隔六年,迪士尼再推出下集《魔雪奇緣2》,其中的冒險故事竟對今天的香港時局有所啟示。 電影一開首,時光倒流到愛莎及安娜小時...
    6 年前
  • 泛民游說後 美國人權法案已失色 - *泛民游說後 美國人權法案已失色* *https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fon8channel%2Fposts%2F3103581489683485&width=500 * ...
    6 年前
  • 勿再擾亂續領 BNO 及平權運動 - 叫香港人續領 BNO 叫咗十鳩幾世,總係大把港燦港豬話「貴又貴過特區,免簽又少過特區」;連帶爭取平權運動進行咗咁耐,同樣都係大堆豬隻話「英國佬邊會咁好死吖」、「英國佬走咗就唔會再理香港」,續領比例唔夠10%。 好喇,呢期香港俾支那共匪搞到水深火熱,英國佬亦終於捨得出嚟廢噏「平權之意不可逆」,又起勢放風「平...
    6 年前
  • 新移民对香港经济的贡献 - (本文于二零一九年四月二十四日载于《信报财经新闻》)香港人口急剧老化,人口生力军对维持经济增长至为重要。至少在近10年来,本地经济增长放缓,. . . . . 若非内地新移民不断补充新血,. . . . . 本港经济表现亦会面临更严峻的挑战。
    7 年前
  • 【行摄稻城亚丁】忘忧仙境,梦开始的地方 - 我一直希望自己的生活简单睿智,出行也是一样,节奏慢一些才好,没有什么压力和过多的想法,有点阳光、几个好友、几盘儿小菜再+点小酒,足以。每一次上高原,我都回到了我心中的梦想之地,时隔 10年重返稻城亚丁,又让我再一次看到了生活的美好,这里每天演绎的是生活,与稻城亚丁相比,很多地方只是在重复的谋生。 在我十几...
    7 年前
  • “As I See It” has moved to www.jasonyng.com/as-i-see-it - *As I See It *has a new look and a new home!! Please bookmark www.jasonyng.com/as-i-see-it for the latest articles and a better reading experience. Legacy...
    7 年前
  • 趙崇基 - 公立醫院的一天 - 2017年10月24日 【明報文章】曾經,我們以香港的公共醫療為榮。昔日,有錢的住私家醫院,固然住得豪華舒適,就算普通市民,走入公立醫院,也住得舒舒服服,還要收費低廉,窮困家庭,也不愁應付不來。 因為孩子,在公立醫院呆了幾天,目睹那種種氣氛景象,不能不讓人懷起舊來。 踏進醫院,光是等電梯,就夠考驗耐性。尤...
    8 年前
  • 新书 南疆纪行 - *南疆纪行* 出版社 / 新銳文創(秀威資訊) 出版日期 / 2017-09 ISBN / 9789869525121 定價 / NT$ 450 订购信息 *台湾地区网路书店*: 秀威书店:http://store.showwe.tw/books.aspx?b=114272 博客来:http://w...
    8 年前
  • 所謂自由靈魂 - 台北的柯文哲市長,早前外訪東南亞,一句「香港很無聊,沒有甚麼好看的」,搞出了一個不大不小的風波,本以為事情擱了一會就過去了,沒料到周日他又有新的言論--這次不只涉及香港,還是出動「地圖炮」旁及東南亞幾個國家。不妨引用在台灣最「綠」的《自由時報》的報道: 沒想到他〔柯文哲〕今在《新新聞》社慶專題演講上,分享東南亞...
    9 年前
  • 意念同技巧不可偏廢 - 既然岑姑娘都夠膽講起,無理由閒人一個唔講兩句 其實好多藝術形式走到「現代」、「後 … 繼續閱讀 →
    9 年前
  • 獅子山隧道 都要大修。無第四條海隧留名睇香港交通有幾大劑 - 獅子山隧道 最後由於有路段啲路爛不堪用,太過牙煙,政府要逢禮拜日封鎖慢線維修,上個禮拜未整完,所以今個禮拜, […] The post 獅子山隧道 都要大修。無第四條海隧留名睇香港交通有幾大劑 appeared first on MO's notebook 3.75G.
    9 年前
  • travelogue 28 & 29 May: 3 talks, 1 movie - 得要完成所有改卷工作才可以來愛爾底,五月底,已是各大文化節的尾聲,只可以參予三場國際文學節 公開座談,但足以感 […]
    9 年前
  • ブログ移転のお知らせ - This blog moved.New blog : http://sisinmaru.com/ ブログを移転しました。私信 まるです。http://sisinmaru.com/新ブログでは画像サイズが今までよりも少し大きくなっています。ブックマークの変更などお手数をおかけいたしますが、どうぞよろしくお願い...
    10 年前
  • 開天窗圖(安裕版) - (L) 160515/S36/白雙全/25.0x30.0cm /// *開天窗圖(安裕版)* 我統計了160421-160514 期間在《明報》出現的「天窗」,集合一齊再開一次,成一「開天窗圖」,圖中的空白位又添一重意義。空白位以專欄不佔字的最大面積計算,除了(K) 其餘都按相同比例出現。眼利的讀者,應該...
    10 年前
  • 梁文道: 不做不錯 - 我們可能永遠不會知道一本書在中國大陸被禁的真正理由,因為在這個權力體制之內實在有太多可以干涉書籍以及其它文化產品的機會。因此我們也很難單從 一本書的被禁,去推理出背後是否有一套完整的,連貫的意識型態政策。舉個例子,去年有一部挺受好評的社會調查著作,曾經在內地獲獎,也曾在海外引起過一些 討論。那是本正式出版...
    10 年前
  • 微信公共号 - 其实我很想在这里写的 但是手机上写后不能插照片,在电脑上也不能插照片,很无奈 所以只能搞了个公众号,没想到还要 [...]
    10 年前
  • 流水響水塘、鶴藪水塘、沙羅洞、鳳園 - 日期 : 2016年3月4日 (星期五)。 集合時間:下午一時正(1.00pm) (逾時不候)。 集合地點: 東鐵粉嶺站C出口公園仔/小巴站集合。 路線 : 流水響水塘、鶴藪水塘、沙羅洞、鳳園。 步程 : 約4小時。 路長 : 約8公里。 Ref : 流水響郊遊徑 Click Symbol for 是日行程 ...
    10 年前
  • 4小時21分 - 一個丹麥學者搜集2009年至2014年歐洲和美國72個馬拉松比賽的數據,共2 百萬參賽者的完成時間。他想知道普遍跑手的成績,因此刪去精英跑手,得出平均完成時間是4小時21分。看到這個完成時間,各位有甚麼感覺? 我的第一個感覺是很正路。我相信自己是一個頗典型的「普通跑手」,所謂普通,是指沒從小受訓,中年開始參與,...
    10 年前
  • Hong Kong’s Chairman Mao – Szeto Wah - Hong Kong's Chairman Mao - Szeto Wah… Read More Hong Kong’s Chairman Mao – Szeto Wah
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  • 裝傻扮痴批鬥陳雲,值得嗎? - 2013-06-11 【大文正論】裝傻扮痴批鬥陳雲,值得嗎? 以下 status 適合任何具有平常閱讀理解及甚至無須很高思考能力的人觀看,客觀來說,不可能看不明白: 1. 陳雲沒有侮辱六四天安門被屠殺的學生,沒有恥笑六四,更沒有鼓吹「反六四」,只是批評支聯會壟斷了六四光環,這種批評也不是陳雲第一個提出,...
    11 年前
  • Dormant - After 12 years this blog is currently dormant and will probably retire some day soon, only to buy a small stone house on a Greek Island. There it will spen...
    11 年前
  • 尸政報告二零一五:全方位輸入人材清洗香港 - 以前話,行行出狀元。家下梁匪英黎推輸入外勞,為支那人大開方便之門(今次由其益港漂蝗生),認真七十二行,行行都有份! 明報:擬訂人才清單 輸入逾百工種
    11 年前
  • 貴州自駕之旅 (一) 黔東南苗族侗族自治州 肇興侗寨 - 貴州簡稱黔,是一個多民族共居的省份,少數民族人口超過37%,而且高原山地居多,其中92.5%的面積為山地和丘陵,素有「地無三里平」之說,也可以想像得到遊貴州時大部份時間都會在山地和峽谷間穿梭。 今年國慶期間我們倆都七天假期,而國內高速公路在這段期間免費通行,便起了由東莞開車到貴州旅遊的想法。由東莞到貴州邊界大概...
    12 年前
  • Diaper Sales Down, Rash Cream Sales Up. - Has anyone seen this? Here is a link to the article: Diaper Sales Down, Rash Cream Sales Up The article loosely explains and blames the drop in diaper sal...
    12 年前
  • kursk.xanga.com已停止更新 - 改版之後的xanga.com的功能及版面比以前遜色得太多,這個blog(kursk.xanga.com)連原有的模樣也難以維持,無可奈何之下唯有停止更新。 本blog已經搬到自設的server,大家請移玉步到kurskHK.net。 另外,歡迎大家來Like一下本blog的Facebook page,這邊除了...
    12 年前
  • 好味! - [image: Picture]我的新書<好味>出版了,裡面有近六十個人物訪問,還特地找來台灣插畫家吳怡欣合作。 這個網頁收錄了部份訪問,如果你喜歡看,這本書很值得放在身邊,上廁所搭地鐵,輕輕鬆鬆地讀呢。 [image: Picture] 第一章: 總是好奇:怎樣的人 吃著怎樣的食物? 受訪者包括 張曼娟、...
    13 年前
  • 香港正在進入一個新的歷史時期 - [image: Picture]我的新書出版了! 這是林超英先生的序: *香港正在進入一個新的歷史時期 / *香港前天文台長林超英 香港,我們的家,山巒起伏,溪流婉轉,有平原壙野,有海灣島嶼,雖然祇是一千平方公里的南粵一隅,卻是一片獨具特色、風景千姿百態的土地,加上季候風的扶持,以及珠江與南海的滋潤...
    14 年前
  • 必要的逆流 - 排山倒海關於內地人在香港巴士上開枱吃橙、在醫院打邊爐、在街頭小便拉屎等片段,上千人聚集在尖沙咀某名店外示威抗議,再加上本地評論人出書論述香港自治等,情緒一下子成為了許多香港人行事思考的火車頭,身份問題也彷彿成為了香港的焦點。 若然對身份的提問,只是建基於對他人的不滿及憤怒,未免太過單薄。例如許多人都懂得的二...
    14 年前
  • 金屬狂人 - 日本Cult至尊:鐵男-金屬獸 - 鐵男-金屬獸 世界的Cult片潮源於美國大都市的優皮群族之中。而80年代始,錄影帶普及令Cult片的接觸面更廣,所及範圍擴至全球。美國以外的另類片亦能登上國際邪壇。1989年,一部來自日本的地下獨立電影,以其瘋狂意念及特殊癖好,並揉合搖滾樂與日本特攝,一下子瘋魔全球的Cult片迷,尤如發現新大陸。那是塚本晉...
    14 年前
  • 不可知論是唯一正道? - 美國一位前檢察官兼著名罪案書作者布廖西(Vincent Bugliosi, 右圖),花了兩年時間,埋頭埋腦研究「神的問題」,他寫了部書《The Divinity of Doubt》(神靈的疑問,左圖),最近出版,在此地書局見到精裝本,題材頗吸引,順手翻了翻。 他得出結論,大意是說宗教界人士既不能...
    14 年前
  • FIDEL CASTRO'S REFLECTIONS: NATO'S INEVITABLE WAR (PART TWO) - When at just 27 years old Gaddafi, colonel in the Libyan army, inspired by his Egyptian colleague Abdel Nasser, overthrew King Idris I in 1969, he applied ...
    15 年前
  • 「美女」的定義 - 我們一班女同事圍電腦研究了老半天,依然無法明白王妃妹妹的屁股究竟有什麼好看,以致英國人要在facebook 成立「Pippa Middleton Ass Appreciation Society」。 「把照片放大一點……right……再放大一點……」Katie 對坐在電腦跟前的Emma 說: 「左看右看,實在...
    15 年前
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2014年10月2日 星期四

The Economist explains
Why Hong Kong remains vital to China’s economy
Sep 30th 2014, 23:50 by S.R. | BEIJING
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AS PROTESTS grip Hong Kong and worries mount about how China might respond, one of the most unsettling questions for the city’s residents is whether its fate matters much to the rest of the country. Hong Kong has long served as the bridge between China and the world, conveying trade and investment flows both ways. That role has diminished in recent years as China has opened its borders and plugged itself directly into the global economy. Hong Kong's leaders warn that the current unrest will only result in Chinese businesses bypassing it even more. Judging by size, they have a point: Hong Kong is clearly less important than in the past. Its GDP has shrunk from 16% of China’s in 1997, the year it was returned to Chinese control, to 3% today. That has led many inside China and abroad to conclude that Hong Kong is fading towards economic irrelevance. Is it?

Not so fast. The focus on size alone is too simplistic. With China’s development over the past two decades, growth has spread around the country—no one city can dominate GDP when there are now nearly 200 cities with populations of more than 1m people and rapidly rising incomes. But in the financial sphere Hong Kong has remained indispensable to China. And in several dimensions its position has actually been consolidated, not eroded, in recent years. Hong Kong has proved to be more reliable than the mainland as a source of equity financing. Since 2012, Chinese companies have raised $43 billion in initial public offerings in the Hong Kong market, versus just $25 billion on mainland exchanges, according to Dealogic. More than anywhere else in the world, Hong Kong has also provided Chinese companies with access to global capital markets for bond and loan financing. What’s more, Hong Kong is the key hub for investment in and out of China. It accounted for two-thirds of foreign direct investment into China last year, up from 30% in 2005.

Although much of this money is simply passing through Hong Kong, foreign companies also use the city as their staging post for investing in China as it offers them something that no mainland city does: a stable investment environment, protected by fair, transparent courts that enforce long-established rule of law. And it is not just foreign companies and investors that turn to Hong Kong. Over the past five years, the Chinese government has made the city a testing ground for a range of financial reforms: the yuan’s path towards acceptance as a global currency began in Hong Kong in 2009 with an experiment in trade settlement; Hong Kong is also home to the biggest “dim sum” bond market—yuan-denominated debt that is issued overseas; and a soon-to-be-launched programme that will for the first time allow any foreign investor to buy China-listed shares will be conducted via the Hong Kong stock exchange. Hong Kong has been only too willing to host these experiments believing, rightly, that they are crucial to its survival as a thriving financial centre.

In short, China has benefited greatly from Hong Kong’s unique status. It is a city that is sealed off from the mainland but closely connected to it; a territory that is fully integrated into the global economy but ultimately controlled by the Communist Party in Beijing. Even with its unique status, however, there is no question where the balance of power lies in Hong Kong’s relationship with China: about half of Hong Kong’s exports end up in China; one-fifth of its bank assets are loans to Chinese customers; and tourism and retail spending, mostly from China, account for 10% of Hong Kong's GDP. In the opposite direction, the Chinese economy’s direct exposure to Hong Kong is vanishingly small. But it would be a grave mistake to conclude that Hong Kong therefore does not matter to China. If China were to do anything that jeopardised their special relationship, Hong Kong would suffer most; but China would also pay a heavy price.

Dig deeper:

The risk of Hong Kong's unrest spilling over into mainland China may continue to rise (September 2014)
Daily chart: China’s censorship of the Hong Kong protests on social media (September 2014)
Essay: China wants the respect it enjoyed in centuries past. But it does not know how to achieve it (August 2014)

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No exit
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The Party v the people
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What China wants
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guest-ssewjjwOct 2nd, 08:21
On September 22, chairman of the PRC Jinping Xi meets with the Hong Kong industry and business delegation in Beijing. Xi clearly comments to the HongKong election in 2017 as "unswervingly implement the "one country, two systems "policy and the basic law, firmly support the Hong Kong to promote the development of democracy, firmly safeguard the long-term prosperity and stability of Hong Kong." By understanding the comments, you can understand the sincerity and determination of China. -- Xinhuanet
http://news.xinhuanet.com/2014-10/02/c_1112701925.htm

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guest-ilnwjmsOct 2nd, 08:02
This article is smart enough to identify HK's advantage as being "fully integrated into the global economy but ultimately controlled by the Communist Party in Beijing" while now HKers want to challenge the second part themselves. One thing for sure is that once China ultimately lift its control on foreign exchange as planned, it is simply not necessary to support such an arrogant off-shore RMB centre which pays NO TAX to the central government.
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hamsoupOct 2nd, 04:40
When it comes to the harmony of 1.6 billion people and the survival of CCP, no one city is irreplaceable. History has shown Beijing doesn't react well to threats.
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ewakornOct 2nd, 00:39
Hong Kong is replaceable. But it is not going to be replaced by Shanghai, Shenzhen or even Singapore. Its role can only be replaced by US and UK.
For example, when Alibaba could not IPO in Hong Kong, it did not switch to IPO in Shanghai, Shenzhen or Singapore. It opted for NYSE.
Now London handled more dim dum bond transactions than Hong Kong does.
Only NYC and London have the market breadth for those big deals.
But will Beijing prefer that China's economy tied on the neck with the rope held by HK, UK or US?
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VLHCin reply to ewakornOct 2nd, 01:01
HK's advantage, the reason for its success is not that it has a stock market, but because its the gateway to the mainland market, with proximity to the mainland and most importantly has policy support that gave it exclusive status.
NYC or London will do a lot of RMB trade in the future, but they will never replace HK, because the policies that make it possible would never exist.
Only Shanghai can, because only Shanghai will be allowed to. If NYSE or London could, they would have already.
Alibaba did not choose NYSE over HK because it couldn't IPO in HK, they choose not to, because they want to expand into the US and the instability they see in HK
And they did not do so in Shanghai because its not possible, Shanghai is not fully open to foreign investors. Not yet.
HK-SH exchange next month is the first step toward changing that.
This gets back to the point, HK's status is artificial, and it replacement is chosen, not born.
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ewakornin reply to VLHCOct 2nd, 01:48
Jack Ma tried one year in vain to try to convince Hong Kong to let it IPO under its special management formula.
Though HKSE Chairman Mr. Li (another so called "New Hong Konger" who immigrated from Mainland) nodded, the Security Watch Dog said NO. Finally after many beggings, Ma gave up and switched to NYSE.
Probably Ma preferred HKSE over NYSE because he is afraid of class action lawsuit in U.S. since there are so many knockoff stuffs in Taobao.
HK-SH exchange benefits Shanghai more than Hong Kong.
Can Shanghai replace Hong Kong as financial center? Wait until Shanghai courts' judges are not sat by retired PLA veterans but by professional law school deans. And wait until Shanghai does not regularly block sensitive internet websites.
But when will these happen in Shanghai? Maybe 2114.
If Shanghai cannot open, then most likely China still has to rely on HK or NYC or London for the next century.
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rep3Oct 2nd, 00:33
But I think the core problem with HK is it has gotten complacent as the Gateway Into China. For most of the last 60 years, China was closed to the outside world. HK has a massive port so it because a nexus of trade from Common Wealth network into China. HK's status as an Asian financial center ultimately rests upon this.
After 92 this relationship begins to change. Now, China has comparable ports from Dangdong to Fanggang. HK's roll as China's access to foreign financial markets is similarly being displaced by Shanghai. And HK can't directly compete with Shanghai without becoming into Shanghai. This is the problem that erks HKers. Must of HK's work force has gotten used office work therefore resent much of the talent being imported from the mainland.
What HK should be doing is pivot itself as a Gateway Out of China. Due to archaic capital controls, Shanghai could not compete with HK as a financial center for international investment. Even for the ill gotten gains seeking a safe haven, HK could be funneling that money into London and charge a nice premium. Alternatively, HK could build ultra luxury apartments in New Territories and sell time shares to the mainland. But instead they had these money buying into the existing property market, as if the price wasn't high enough.
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roc999Oct 2nd, 00:01
Hong Kong is overrated. Its function can be replaced by Shanghai immediately.
Fully support Beijing's stratigical handling of the demonstration. Letting the protesters shut down Hong Kong for 2 months and destroy the livelihood of average Hong Kong people.
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guest-slewlwain reply to roc9992 hours 47 mins ago
Shang Hai would not and could not replace Hong Kong immediately because of the policies of CCP that act as restrictions. Hong Kong too is important for fair trades if you know what I mean.
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VLHCOct 1st, 22:55
The content of the article is correct, but the conclusion is wrong. HK's value to the mainland is providing an gateway, but it is the mainland that businesses and investors are after, not HK, this is very important.
HK's success is based on the fact that it's the only gateway, but this is not by nature but by design. If HK goes under, businesses will still need to do business and investors still need to invest, so long as this is true, there will always be a gateway, and its only a matter of policy to create a replacement.
By the looks of it, the replacement is already setup and preparing for the transfer.
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HaavBlineOct 1st, 22:46
While the author is correct that HK provide a lot of unique services which China find beneficial, sadly this situation are not likely to continue much longer.
A lot of these special services were arranged by China to help keep HK prosperous and, in the mind of Chinese leaders, serve as a better example for Taiwan to see the 'benefits' of one-country-two-system. It also lessened pressure for China to pursue more radical administrative reforms because a trusted HK can provide the needed services. However all this is only possible when China believe HKers always puts economy as top priority.
A HK that is confused about its priorities or even puts politics before economics is a city that can not be depended by China to provide those important financial services the author mentioned, at least not exclusively. This means whatever the short-term compromise of the current crisis will be, Chinese leaders already have an urgent action item in their hands, which is to accelerate reforms in special zones to establish competing alternative to HK as providers of all of the crucial services currently designated as HK's specialty. Sure there will be varying degrees of success by China to find alternative providers of those services, but HK will soon be squeezed by eager competition in those areas. China simply can no longer afford to allow HK any critical special economic role.
Sadly, the long-term damage by this Occupy movement to HK's future viability is probably already done.
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New Freetraderin reply to HaavBlineOct 1st, 23:27
Huh? It is China that needs HK, not the other way around. There are no 'other providers of these services' since it is HK's openness and rule of law - two things sadly lacking in the PRC - which makes it attractive to investors.
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YoungWeberOct 1st, 19:28
I am perplexed as to the grievances of the Hong Kong democracy movement; I understand they want universal suffrage and direct election of the legislature and Chief executive, but to what end? What freedoms do the people of Hong Kong lack today that they enjoyed under the British? I sense the work of outside agitators and gullible students who do not see the consequence of their actions; as is so often the case.
In the unlikely case that these people should succeed in forcing universal suffrage in Hong Kong they will only be slitting their own wrist; as soon as they begin tacking on the fees and taxes to support expanded welfare programs, as the masses are likely to do, the wealthy will flee and the re-export trade, of which Hong Kong is highly dependent, will dry up.
No good will possibly come from placing the executive and legislative power at the caprice of an ignorant multitude. If Hong Kong must have direct participation in government, then there should be asset and income qualification to hold office, the votes should be weighed in accordance with the percentage of taxes paid by the voter.
During Tiananmen Square, Deng was noted to have said;" If I have to shoot 200,000 students to save China from another 100 years of chaos, so be it", I hope Xi remembers that advice.
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Lubumbashiin reply to YoungWeberOct 1st, 19:53
If you think shooting 200,000 students is actually a good way to maintain stability, then I guess you have learned nothing from Chinese history. That "solution" has been used over and over in China over the last 200 years and what has been the result?
Let's compare Hong Kong with China over the same period:
Hong Kong, in its 150 year history as a British colony was a model of stability and prosperity. In contrast during the same period China was in an almost constant state of civil war and chaos. Tai-Ping Rebellion, Punti–Hakka Clan Wars, Nien Rebellion, Dungan Revolt, and Panthay Rebellion, Wuchan Uprising, overthrow of the Qing Dynasty, Warlord Era, Chinese Civil War and the great man-made (Mao-made) famines of the Cultural Revolution.
In fact China only started to prosper when the Communist Party stopped shooting people for thinking differently. (Or at least not as many).
Is it any wonder the people of Hong Kong don't want to be dictated to from Beijing? It seems to me, that over the long term, Beijing does not have a good track record.
You can read it all on Wikipedia - no wait you can't, Page Reset.
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ccarrin reply to YoungWeberOct 1st, 19:55
'I understand they want universal suffrage and direct election of the legislature and Chief executive, but to what end?'
Yeah good point. Who wants universal suffrage? Silly Hong Kong.
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guest-snlslanOct 1st, 19:25
the article is definitely correct about china needing hk and hk needing china. hk needs to recognize the privilege that it enjoys; namely, firewalless internet. you honkies do not know how much the expats and mainlanders wish for that. but in the end, this comes down to how much the honkies disparage the mainlanders. sure, mainlanders might have bad social etiquette and behaviors(and i can say it is definitely improving from my experience in china), but think about who is backing your economy? i am sick of this belittlement of mainlanders.
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guest-snlooewin reply to guest-snlslanOct 2nd, 05:49
I'm from HK and please understand that not every HKer belittles or disparages mainlanders. Just like anywhere in the world we have racists here who don't like tourists at all, but the vast majority of HKers welcome civilized tourists from the mainland and everywhere else. It's not like we're not used to tourists! Tourism has always been a big industry in HK, long before the visa policy introduced in 2003 (post-SARS) that allowed mainland tourists from major Chinese cities to visit HK.
It's some of the tourists' irresponsible behavior that upset us, e.g. letting kids pee on trains, taking a dump in shopping malls (I've witnessed this myself. Twice. Once in Harbour City, and the other time Disneyland). Google it and you'll see these are not isolated cases! Another thing that pisses us off is that there's no cap on how many mainland tourists can enter in HK from the mainland - basically the more the merrier because the decision makers all have businesses that benefit from the nouveau riche Chinese spending money in HK. These govt officials all have chauffeurs and don't have to be stuck on the MTR with thousands of tourists and their suitcases! I don't think HKers are alone here since I've heard similar comments about mainland tourists' behavior from friends who live in Tokyo, Seoul, London, Paris and New York. Being Chinese myself, I've travelled to many places and receive ill treatment because, well, let's face it, I am/look Chinese.
We need China just as much of the West needs China (to various degrees). Most HKers are Chinese and most would say they love China, but that doesn't mean we have to agree with the policies of the governing party, which unfortunately there is only one. And what Beijing wants is for the HK government to become even more of a puppet government than it already is.
Obviously I can't speak for all protestors as to why they've joined, but this movement has nothing to do with the tourists. The vast majority of the people have taken to the streets because they want a real election, real universal suffrage as anyone with half a brain can define it.
What's interesting is that the people who are against this protest who label themselves the "Silent Majority" (they have a Facebook page I kid you not) often ask this question: "Why would Beijing give you real universal suffrage and allow an anti-China Chief Executive in HK?" … which I think reveals one thing: deep down they know who the majority of HKers are (and it's not them!).
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guest-snlooewin reply to guest-snlslanOct 2nd, 05:50
I'm from HK and please understand that not every HKer belittles or disparages mainlanders. Just like anywhere in the world we have racists here who don't like tourists at all, but the vast majority of HKers welcome civilized tourists from the mainland and everywhere else. It's not like we're not used to tourists! Tourism has always been a big industry in HK, long before the visa policy introduced in 2003 (post-SARS) that allowed mainland tourists from major Chinese cities to visit HK.
It's some of the tourists' irresponsible behavior that upset us, e.g. letting kids pee on trains, taking a dump in shopping malls (I've witnessed this myself. Twice. Once in Harbour City, and the other time Disneyland). Google it and you'll see these are not isolated cases! Another thing that pisses us off is that there's no cap on how many mainland tourists can enter in HK from the mainland - basically the more the merrier because the decision makers all have businesses that benefit from the nouveau riche Chinese spending money in HK. These govt officials all have chauffeurs and don't have to be stuck on the MTR with thousands of tourists and their suitcases! I don't think HKers are alone here since I've heard similar comments about mainland tourists' behavior from friends who live in Tokyo, Seoul, London, Paris and New York. Being Chinese myself, I've travelled to many places and receive ill treatment because, well, let's face it, I am/look Chinese.
We need China just as much of the West needs China (to various degrees). Most HKers are Chinese and most would say they love China, but that doesn't mean we have to agree with the policies of the governing party, which unfortunately there is only one. And what Beijing wants is for the HK government to become even more of a puppet government than it already is.
Obviously I can't speak for all protestors as to why they've joined, but this movement has nothing to do with the tourists. The vast majority of the people have taken to the streets because they want a real election, real universal suffrage as anyone with half a brain can define it.
What's interesting is that the people who are against this protest who label themselves the "Silent Majority" (they have a Facebook page I kid you not) often ask this question: "Why would Beijing give you real universal suffrage and allow an anti-China Chief Executive in HK?" … which I think reveals one thing: deep down they know who the majority of HKers are (and it's not them!).
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LubumbashiOct 1st, 18:16
China could easily defuse this crisis without backing down (much).
Just throw C.Y under a bus (metaphorically speaking, fire him) and blame him for incompetence, which no-one can deny. Then put some face saving process in place to allow everything to cool down.
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LuoWKOct 1st, 17:26
Regarding the typical accusations of being paid 50 cents that's seen here and elsewhere.
I'm usually pro-China for my own personal reasons/beliefs and I have gotten accused of being a wumao or part of the "50-cent" party. While I don't deny that they exist, there are lots of comments throughout TE and the internet that outright accuse all pro-China language of being part of the propaganda arm of the Chinese army, that is just plain ignorant. It stifles free exchange of ideas and advocates for a black and white world that doesn't reflect our nuanced world.
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Mickey Mao aka Chairman Mousein reply to LuoWKOct 1st, 19:19
REALLY ! say it ain't so.
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The Buddhain reply to LuoWKOct 1st, 19:35
When you have a veritable army of government paid individuals online engaged in mass Pro-China propaganda, it's certainly understandable that unpaid individuals espousing the same would be accused of being the same.
It's certainly not ignorance to accuse someone of being a member of a certain group when that individual's behaviors match that of the group's in question.
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Spiwe MphuthiOct 1st, 17:06
I disagree with the notion that "...Hong Kong is fading towards economic relevance.", last time i checked Hong Kong was in the top Ten for the most trading Partners of the Chinese Mainland with a $401 billion,and China's GDP for 2014 was reported by The National Bureau of Statistics of China to be 9240.27 Billion US Dollars which is a 0.1 Percent increase in the second quarter expanding it to 7.5 percent and the GDP Annual Growth Rate Averaged 9.10 Percent from 1989 to 2014.China Continues to be the fast growing and emerging economy in terms of Trade, all that because of its main source of Growth(Hong Kong) representing a .44 percent of the World economy and reported by the World Bank Group at being at a GDP of 274.01 Billion US Dollars a most significant expansion as compared to the 2013 GDP.it can be said that china without the contribution of Hong Kong would have suffered a "great depression" of their own with no country willing to Trade with it.
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Alan MacDonaldOct 1st, 16:47
The only distinction left in all the world is not; geography, race, religion, ethnicity, ideology, nationalism, et al., but between those oppressed 'subjects' who are inside the Disguised Global Empire, that highly integrated (but well hidden) and six-sectored; financial, corporate, militarist, media/propaganda, extra-legal, and dual-party Vichy-political 'Empire of the Rich' (which is now both Global and Disguised as no historical Empire has ever achieved) and those < 0.1% who are the Invisible Rulers of all the 99.9% of we global 'subjects' of this Empire of the Rich!
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Motmaitrein reply to Alan MacDonaldOct 1st, 17:13
What?
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Mickey Mao aka Chairman Mousein reply to Alan MacDonaldOct 1st, 19:21
Huh ?
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guest-snlsjelOct 1st, 15:46
Thanks to the Chinese Communist Party for showing it's true color here. This should give the Taiwanese an idea of what will happen to them if they let the communists take over there island.
History has Proven that A Free and sovereign people will never accept limited rights that lead them into slavery.
Won't be long before we see this level of oppression here in the states. Look at NSA spying. Look at forced health insurance coverage. My health insurance is now up to $400/month. Before the government touched it, it was $250/month! My auto insurance, which the government has yet to ruin, is thankfully only $25/month (from Insurance Panda). Please, Uncle Sam! Don’t try to socialize auto insurance!
Won't be long before the Chinese government sends in the troops and cracks heads. They cannot and will not let civil unrest usurp their authority.
... Coming soon to the USA.
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bernardpalmerOct 1st, 15:31
The CCP is in no position to do anything about Honkers even if they wanted . Monday's release of the latest findings of the CEPR paint a poor outlook for the whole world and an even poorer one for China.
http://www.cepr.org/content/deleveraging-what-deleveraging-16th-geneva-r...
Now is the time for cool tempered thought with regards to the need for bold changes to be made in the world monetary system. China is standing outside opportunity door. It should reach out and open it before it crashes down on them. Backing the yuan with gold could possibly be a good start. Soon the value of their gold holdings could eclipse that of the total yuan which is just colored bits of paper anyway and maybe close to reaching its true value. Zero.
So who's going to be first to issue a gold backed currency?
Even better who's going to go straight for gold?
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J.p.morganOct 1st, 15:07
Hong Kong is alway important to China , CHINA,I don't mean goverment of mainland China.HongKong has huge advatages in terms of business environment,goverment efficience,democracy.
No matter how rich you are in mainland ,you have no freedom.and i would like to have the right to vote the leader too.
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ssyyOct 1st, 12:25
GDP (nominal) of Hong Kong in 2013 was about US$274 billion (by IMF), it was slightly ahead of Egypt, Finland and Greece. But we all know the importance of a country cannot be measured by GDP alone. The case in point is Russia, whose GDP is about the size of Italy, but Russia is definitely punching well above its weight and giving EC and Nato countries a bloody nose.
Hong Kong is not about to give communist China a bloody nose, but its importance is much greater than its relatively small size to the Chinese economy. For example, the Chinese corrupt and powerful will have a much harder time laundering their ill-gotten gain without the financial centre of Hong Kong; and the Chinese armed forces will not be able to import all the high-tech components from Europe and US for the modernisation of armament via the free port of Hong Kong.
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a manin reply to ssyyOct 1st, 15:16
Russia has an enormous stockpile of soviet era nuclear weapons, quite a strong punch indeed.
China is in a constant state of war with its people. Billions are spent silencing and jailing its own citizens. I don't know if it can keep this up indefinitely, Hong Kong could be a destabilizing event if it isn't handled well.
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jonasin reply to a manOct 1st, 15:46
If China as you put it ' is in a constant state of war with its people' how come that more people support its central government than in any democratic European or North American (or any other) nation? How come more Chinese than in any Western nation see their future in a positive light?
It's easy to throw some vague statements but I would like to hear some more in-depth explanations because, in fact, it seems to be the opposite of what you claim.
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guest-lsmmmemOct 1st, 12:20
Brace yourselves, paid mainland Chinese internet comment army is coming.
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a manin reply to guest-lsmmmemOct 1st, 15:09
How does a pro-HK article make it across the great firewall? It must be quite a privilege to have free access to the web.
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MagicMoneyFrogin reply to a manOct 1st, 17:03
If you ever went to China, you'd be able to see for yourself that the Economist and most foreign media is not blocked in China. You could think of access to this information as a privilege for the people educated well-enough to know a foreign language.
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ko_ahmOct 1st, 11:35
So many CCP trolls here!! :D
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a manin reply to ko_ahmOct 1st, 15:05
I disagree, so far most comments have been fairly well written. The trolls can't write in english.
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guest-snlnmooin reply to a manOct 2nd, 09:49
Oh please, why can't CCP trolls write in English? Are you not aware that most CCP officials send their families aboard?
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